lordleonusa Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 My late father smoked most of his life. He tried to stop but found it a challenge, until... one day when he visited my mother in hospital and walked around the ward and saw many patients without legs and arms. He thought it odd that there were so many amputees there and asked them why they were there? All had the same answer: Loss of circulation due to smoking. He never smoked again. All you hear about lung cancer, heart disease etc from smoking, but no one mentions the likelihood of losing limbs. I have never touched a cigarette, but my wife smokes and that bothers me. L My Triumph is my drug of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977Triumph Posted March 24, 2009 Author Share Posted March 24, 2009 I weakened :'( had a puff on one realised what I was doing and chucked it. I got offered it and I automatically took it. Theres alot of smokers at work so I have made sure now that they DO NOT offer me one. Hopefully tomorrow will be easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveNotSoSideways Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 Pain, each time you take in Nicotine you are back to square one....RESIST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2vitesses Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I weakened :'( had a puff on one realised what I was doing and chucked it. I got offered it and I automatically took it. Theres alot of smokers at work so I have made sure now that they DO NOT offer me one. Hopefully tomorrow will be easier. Make sure you let EVERBODY know that you have stopped, it stops being offered them in the first place. The other thing is by making that statement, you reinforce your commitment to everybody. I have STOPPED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorbs Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 A friend of mine rang that NHS stop smoking number, they gave her some hints, referred her to her doctor who gave her some pills, probably just placebos. To be honest, it seemed to be more about will power than anything else but she's never smoked since. The strange thing is that I sometimes smoke a few ciggies when out with friends but have absolutely no deisire to smoke at any other time. I can smoke every day for a week and then not touch another for months or years. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I noticed while I was getting my drug at the coffee kiosk that a pack can cost £6.20! It's amazing people can justify this. You could get a half-decent book for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 i've been trying to give up for months now, managed to get down to 10 then changed jobs, now smoking 15-20 grrrrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveNotSoSideways Posted March 24, 2009 Share Posted March 24, 2009 I smoke double or triple filtered roll-ups... Costs me about £5 a week... I wouldnt even entertain a packet at £6. I stopped buying packeted fags when they went over £2.50 a pack Saying that Beer is £2.50 a pint... Lucky I only buy about 10 pints a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977Triumph Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 How much "cleaner" is the triple filtered? I usually smoked marly lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveNotSoSideways Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I thought you quit? Just roll ups with 2-3 small filters rammed in the end. Means I only smoke 2-3cm of tobacco at 6mm diameter with each cigerette, so probably far better for you than normal cigarettes where you smoke about 5x as much tobacco....3 filters, 3x as much crap filtered. Plus roll-up tobacco is MUCH MUCH MUCH less processed and has far less chemicals and crap added and no salt peter to keep it burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteClan Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 If you're looking at alternatives then the will to quit is not there. Pete Richards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resto Virgin Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 He didn't say he was looking at alternatives. He asked how much cleaner triple filtered was! If I ask how much a Ford Ka is, does that mean I have any intention of buying one. How about giving him some encouragement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977Triumph Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 If you're looking at alternatives then the will to quit is not there. Pete Richards I was just curious as to what the difference was, I have smoked roll ups in the past without filters and some brands of tobacco are so much smoother than "ready mades" I am still off them, its going to be bloody hard tonight tho as GF will be wanting one or two. ( I leave Jony to make any comments on that one! ;D) I was contemplating just cutting down to 1 or 2 a week, but given the advice on here it just seems to prolong the cravings. Think im doing ok so far, I would have had probably 8-10 by now since yesterday morning. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveNotSoSideways Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Just quit outright.... Ironically they supercharge Marlboro's etc with some chemical, this makes the nicotine like crack-cocaine versus normal cocaine...ie the modified crack-nicotine type is MUCH more addictive and harder to get off, they supercharge those ready made things with all sorts of stuff. They don't do that with most rolling tobacco... I tried to quit Marlboro's years back I had incredible cravings, just nuts. That was after weaning myself down to 1/2 a cigarette a day at about 11pm over a 1month period. If you can make a week you're well on way. It'll take alot longer to readjust your brain, but your past the actual nicotine addiction and into pathological and psychological addiction then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Good luck to anyone who's trying to give up. It's the best health move you can make - forget organic food, mineral water, etc etc. But plan it! There are several sources of help and advice: 1/ Your GP's surgery. Someone there, usually a Practice Nurse (down, boys!) will be a "Stop Smoking Adviser" who you can make an appointment to see. With the GP, they can get you some of the following on prescription. But there may be a waiting list. 2/ The Pharmacist at your local chemist can also advise you about the above, but choose a slack time, not Saturday AM. All of the below (in 3) may be bought over the counter. 3/ "Nicotine Replacement treatment" Chewing gum is not the only Opal Fruit! The idea is that taking nicotine lessens the craving and allows you to deal with the other aspects of smoking that are addictive - 'doing something with your hands', the social aspects etc. Nicotine is the addictive bit, but not the bit that causes disease. All of the following have been shown to help. The nicotine can come in: Gum - needs to be used in a special way, not chewed like ordinary gum. Advice on the packet or from the chemist where you buy it. Patches - make sure you get the right strength! Inhalers - either like a Vick inhaler, that you breath up your nose, or an asthma inhaler. Inhalers that look like cigarette holders are tres chic, but they keep you doing the 'hands' thing. Not so successful. "Electric" cigarettes - look like a ciggie, even have a glowing tip. They evaporate nicotine for you to breath. Probably same disadvantage, but too new for research to have been done with them. 4/ Some tablets have been shown to help smokers stop, by reducing craving. Presciption only, though 5/ If you have a family or partner, recruit them to do the same. Work out your joint strategy. Working together has been shown to lead to more success. 6/ And remember - people who succeed in stopping for good, have usually given up before, and lapsed back, several times before succeeding. If you start again, resolve to stop again as soon as possible! Good luck! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977Triumph Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 Cravings arent too bad now, like Dave says I think im past the nicotine cravings, GF had one last night, I think she might be persuaded to cut down if not stop entirely now i've stopped. Im not using any nicotine replacement crap, just drags it out more IMO. I have got some spearmint wrigleys extra tho ;D mainly to get some glucose which supposedly helps with cravings as it tricks your brain into thinking you are eating, or so they said on the one show tuther day. I figure if I can make the weekend without one, that will be it, i'll be finished with em. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977Triumph Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 Did I mention when I quit I did a bit of a psycological thing and scrunched up a nearly new packet of fags so I couldn't smoke them, thought it might help reinforce the "YOU WILL STOP" thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jony Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 nice one well done that man! keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B. Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 Did I mention when I quit I did a bit of a psycological thing and scrunched up a nearly new packet of fags so I couldn't smoke them, thought it might help reinforce the "YOU WILL STOP" thinking. Hmm - are you sure you want to stop. Yesterday you missed your daily intake of Acetaldehyde Acetamide Acrylamide Acrylonitrile 2-Amino-3,4-dimethyl-3H-imidazo[4,5-f]quinoline (MeIQ) 3-Amino-1,4-dimethyl-5H-pyrido [4,3-b]indole (Trp-P-1) 2-Amino-l-methyl-6-phenyl-1H-imidazo [4,5-b]pyridine (PhlP) 2-Amino-6-methyldipyrido[1,2-a:3',2'-d]imidazole (Glu-P-1) 3-Amino-l-methyl-5H-pyrido {4,3-b]indole (Trp-P-2 2-Amino-3-methyl-9H-pyrido[2,3-b]indole (MeAaC) 2-Amino-9H-pyrido[2,3-b]indole (AaC) 4-Aminobiphenyl 2-Aminodipyrido[1,2-a:3',2'-d]imidazole (Glu-P-2) 0-Anisidine Arsenic Benz[a]anthracene Benzene Benzo[a]pyrene Benzofluoranthene Benzo[j]fluoranthene Benzo[k]fluoranthene Benzofuran Beryllium 1,3-Butadiene Cadmium Catechol (1,2-benzenediol) p-Chloroaniline Chloroform Cobalt p,p'-DDT Dibenz[a,h]acridine Dibenz[a,j]acridine Dibenz(a,h)anthracene 7H-Dibenzo[c,g]carbazole Dibenzo(a,e)pyrene Dibenzo(a,i)pyrene Dibenzo(a,h)pyrene Dibenzo(a,i)pyrene Dibenzo(a,l)pyrene 3,4-Dihydroxycinnamic acid (caffeic acid) Ethylbenzene Ethylene oxide Formaldehyde Furan Glycidol Heptachlor Hydrazine Indeno[1,2,3-cd]pyrene IQ 92-Amino-3-methyl-3H-imidazo[4,5-f]quinoline) Isoprene Lead 5-Methyl-chrysene 2-Naphthylamine Nitrobenzene Nitrogen mustard Nitromethane 2-Nitropropane N-Nitrosodi-n-butylamine (NDBA) N-Nitrosodi-n-propylamine (NDPA) N-Nitrosodiethanolamine (NDELA) N-Nitrosodiethylamine (DEN) N-Nitrosodimethylamine (DMN) N-Nitrosoethylmethylamine (NEMA, MEN) 4-(N-Nitrosomethylamino)-1-(3-pyridinyl)-1-butanone (NNK) N'-Nitrosonornicotine (NNN) N-Nitrosopiperidine (NPIP, NPP) N-Nitrosopyrrolidine (NPYR, NPY) Polonium-210 (Radon 222) Propylene oxide Safrole Styrene Tetrachloroethylene o-Toluidine (2-methylaniline) Trichloroethylene Urethane (carbamic acid, ethyl ester) Vinyl acetate Vinyl chloride 4-Vinylcyclohexene 2,6-Xylidine (2,6-dimethylaniline) :o :o Cheers Nick ps: these are just the things that are related to cancer - there are about 4-7.000 more additives in the fags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jony Posted March 26, 2009 Share Posted March 26, 2009 fook me!!!! :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977Triumph Posted March 26, 2009 Author Share Posted March 26, 2009 Darn, I though I was missing all those essential heavy metals and "ides" 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knackerjack Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 It isnt hard giving up smoking Dianes father gave up easily.............he died of lung cancer, he never saw his daughter marry, he never saw his grandchildren, he came from an era that just smoked. I gave up 30 years ago and it was not hard once you actually make your mind up and convince yourself that you are not a smoker. I just hate the bunches of (ugly women cos it makes their face crack) stupid idiots that huddle outside pubs and clubs puffing away. I cannot think of a single reason apart from stupidity that prompts the young to start. I also resent giving money to the treasury to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977Triumph Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 Managed the weekend ok, GF has cut down but not stopped entirely. Got a NASTY cough/cold thing at the moment, went right to my chest > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B. Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Well done Keep up the good work. Cheers Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I also resent giving money to the treasury to waste. Yes, but we all pay taxes! Well done for stopping. You almost motivated me... I lasted 'till 12h30 yesterday. But I think the hangover helped a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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