rogerguzzi Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Hello Nick I did not know that about the changes and spring rate! Perhaps I will drop them off and have another good look? When I first had the car(or early on) I stripped it all down and had a good look and I think replaced the trunnions and since then they have been regularly oiled with EP oil. When I looked at them the other day that whole area is oily looking so should be no rust etc! So perhaps spend my money on something else(But What?) Roger Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Jones Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 11 minutes ago, rogerguzzi said: So perhaps spend my money on something else(But What?) Turbo? Link to post Share on other sites
Escadrille Ecosse Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 How to make a great car better? Excellent problem to have to deal with Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, Nick Jones said: Turbo? Hello Nick I think with ITB,s Efi that would be a challenge! What about PAS? Or electric windows(not that we close them very often!) I know a powered hood now that would be a challenge! Roger Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Man Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 On 11/23/2020 at 1:09 PM, Nick Jones said: Whe considering larger studs, consider that if you want to keep using the factory wheel trims, you set yourself a serious challenge if you go M12. 7/16” UNF from TR or a big saloon allows the use of TR6 wheel nuts, which gives a fighting chance. They can be fitted without major dismantling too. Thinking to go 7/16 UNF studs to get something better than standard. and still give me the option of factory wheel trims in the future if I put the steels back on for some reason (no idea why but options ) Did not realise there are four part numbers for TR6 studs. Fronts and backs are different part numbers and then there is the option for steel wheels or adaptors for wires. 114282 steel front 114281 wires front 132317 steel rear 142799 wires rear Anyone have any idea which works best on a Spitfire? Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Jones Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Steel wheels for sure. Dunno why front and rear are different. Pretty sure my friend with the 7/16" studs used big saloon ones not TR6. TR6 supplied the nuts which are a fair bit chunkier than the Spit ones. TR7 (studs and nuts) or later Dolly Sprint (studs only) might be another option. Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Man Posted January 11 Author Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Nick Jones said: Steel wheels for sure. Dunno why front and rear are different. Pretty sure my friend with the 7/16" studs used big saloon ones not TR6. TR6 supplied the nuts which are a fair bit chunkier than the Spit ones. TR7 (studs and nuts) or later Dolly Sprint (studs only) might be another option. No wonder the British car industry struggled when they were creating such complicated supply chains. I will do some more research! Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Hello Ian These look like the type if they are long enough? The others have the thick shoulder like the one I showed you Wheel Stud - Rear - Each - 132317 | Rimmer Bros Roger 1 Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 20 hours ago, rogerguzzi said: Hello Ian These look like the type if they are long enough? The others have the thick shoulder like the one I showed you Wheel Stud - Rear - Each - 132317 | Rimmer Bros Roger Hello All I just had a thought if you count the number of threads you will know how long they are? That's if it is photo of the real stud! Roger Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 p s I recon about 1" of thread ? Roger Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Man Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 (edited) Well this does not sound like a sewing machine... IMG_2727 (4).MOV The other side is better but not great. And these can go in favour of M1144 pads. Edited January 13 by Radioactive Man Link to post Share on other sites
Escadrille Ecosse Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 42 minutes ago, Radioactive Man said: Well this does not sound like a sewing machine... IMG_2727 (4).MOV 6.75 MB · 2 downloads The other side is better but not great. And these can go in favour of M1144 pads. Good decision Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Man Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 Hope everyone is keeping well. So pulled the worst of the two hubs off to take a look at the wheel bearings. There was easily 0.25mm endfloat when I measured with a DTI. I think the oil seal on the stub axle looks dry to me. I expected it to look different. I expected to see a little more grease between the rollers. Its not how I thought it would look. To my mind the outer looks more like I expected with grease between the rollers. Havent had a look yet to see if there is much metal in the grease. Have purchased some Timken bearings so will swap them regardless I think as these look like brand unknown. Dont have the Timken grease... I am a land rover owner so its regular LMG2 from comma. Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 Hello Ian Now is the time to change the wheel studs! I fitted solid spacers to adjust end float and it stops brake pad knock back. They have been fitted 3 years and only one adjusted by 0.002" after 1 year. The pads used to rattle a lot not at all now! Plus seeing as you are in lock down now might be a good time to check the trunnions as it half stripped down! Especially as Crap wheel bearings were fitted!!! You know it make sense! Roger 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Man Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 may as well Roger! Wont be going anywhere soon. Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Man Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 (edited) Going with the Freelander studs. Are they M12 x1.5 or M12 x 1.25? Edited January 16 by Radioactive Man Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Hello Ian M12 x 1.5 I have 4 studs and 12 nuts spare at a good price! Roger Link to post Share on other sites
Escadrille Ecosse Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 hours ago, rogerguzzi said: I fitted solid spacers to adjust end float and it stops brake pad knock back. They have been fitted 3 years and only one adjusted by 0.002" after 1 year. Which ones did you get Roger? Been thinking of fitting them myself as they seem like an excellent idea Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Jones Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 You could try contacting this guy (it's James Shackford, well known in Club Triumph circles) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SHACKTUNE-TRIUMPH-FRONT-HUB-BEARING-SPACER-KIT/143226142059?hash=item2158f17d6b:g:GlcAAMXQQUpRBZg- The link is NOT for Spitfire ones but GT6/Vit/saloon. He has done Spitfire ones in the past as well, but not sure if he still does as I think they were relatively slow sellers. Link to post Share on other sites
Escadrille Ecosse Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Thanks mate. I'll give that a shot Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Man Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 2 hours ago, rogerguzzi said: Hello Ian M12 x 1.5 I have 4 studs and 12 nuts spare at a good price! Roger Thank you Roger. Happy to buy the studs, what do the nuts look like? Link to post Share on other sites
Radioactive Man Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 Just thinking, a 19mm sockets probably a very tight fit at best given the style of wheels. Wonder if I should buy studs with an internal hex head rather than conventional M12 nuts. Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Hello Ian A photo of mine in the alloys Roger Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Hello Ian Here you are they are about 34/35mm long and 22/23mm dia and 19mm hex Roger Link to post Share on other sites
rogerguzzi Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 20 hours ago, Escadrille Ecosse said: Thanks mate. I'll give that a shot Hello All Yes I think that is who I bought the 1st ones off! I have made a set for the vitesse . You just need a bit of bar the same o/d as inner bearing inner race and a bit of measuring and a lathe of course! Roger Link to post Share on other sites
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