Nick Jones Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 28 minutes ago, JumpingFrog said: The problem with all this is, we might be the only swing axle car that has managed to cover 17,000 miles+ in a single year... Possibly, even probably. I did just over 30k in my Herald in one year once, but that was in about 1989...….. and was mad enough then! They were very much easier miles than yours too I'm sure, even if I did rag mine everywhere. It is definitely highly unusual for the OE ones to get loose splines. The aftermarket ones, not so it seems. Presumably you are safely home again now. Quite an adventure. Just waiting for the book and the film now Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpingFrog Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Yes, safely back home, I'm very slowly editing a video together of the sadly limited footage we have. I'll update here when I've heard back from the suppliers. First I need to get the driveshaft apart again, always fun. Anyway, here is something to give you nightmares, this is the driveshaft we removed this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Well that's ugly....... I'm amazed the roll pin is hanging on in there Look forward to the video. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, JumpingFrog said: Yes, safely back home, I'm very slowly editing a video together of the sadly limited footage we have. I'll update here when I've heard back from the suppliers. First I need to get the driveshaft apart again, always fun. Anyway, here is something to give you nightmares, this is the driveshaft we removed this weekend. Hello Mine were not quite as bad but had done less miles I wonder if Cadbury;s could sell them? They are not fit for Triumph use but the sad thing is people will fit these but only do 500 to 1000 miles per year(super maximum!) so they will seem good value if they last 10 years! Fitchetts ones were cheaper and in my eyes look better I did not like the under cut next to the splines and appeared to be cut splines were as Fitchetts look to be rolled(better I think?) Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted November 20, 2018 Author Share Posted November 20, 2018 Hello As a ps quote my refund as they must have accepted that they are not fit for purpose ? Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpingFrog Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Finally sorted this out, took me a while to get them sent off as my only access to a "workshop" is at my parents house some 6 hours away. Anyway, I spent the weekend before Christmas taking them apart. My hub pulling tool proving to be a good investment! Anyway, the supplier has now refunded me. However, I don't know anything beyond that. I sent a note with them suggesting that they investigate the fit of the splines, mentioning that the swing axle design transmits non-rotational load through the driveshaft. Some observations, maybe of interest: No discernible wear of needle roller surface after 17,000 miles, so hardening seems reasonable. New: OE: The keyways actually look to be a little better than OE, with a more rounded profile (milled not broached?) which should reduce the chance of the keyway becoming a stress riser. Obviously this is all in vain if the yoke separates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 Hello All Here we go again!!!!!! I fitted my other new drive shaft 200 miles ago!!!!!!!!!!! I fitted new outer bearings but I used the UJ from the old one as it had only done about 3500 miles and there was barley a mark on the part that fitted into the drive shaft yoke(I did not strip the diff flange and it felt perfect?) Now I have a clicking noise on over run!!!!!!!! (what is with my Spitty and drive shafts?) Still I have a whole week before we go to Spain & Portugal So I know what I will be doing tomorrow? I have the Complete drive shaft I removed and 2 more UJ,s (Spicer type) So no pressure ? Still better now than in Spain or Portugal? Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Clicking usually means too much endfloat on one (or both) of the UJ axes. This is a common problem on OE too. Can be overcome with thicker circlips (if you can find any) or shims under the circlips and no need to remove the UJ from the yoke or shaft from the car..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Hello Nick I know that and when I built it up I left the little bits of plastic out that they fit on the end of the cross pin as they were damaged and sorted out Circlips that were tight but it may be the ones I did not strip? Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, rogerguzzi said: little bits of plastic out that they fit on the end of the cross pin ?? Don't remember seeing these before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JumpingFrog Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 The plastic you refer to are little cones that go in the UJ cup? I've only seen these on the Freelander heavy duty UJs (TVF100000). Not sure what purpose they serve, this rather out of focus picture shows it?: Maybe they could allow more end float, but I can't see them being strong enough to take a load. Whenever I fit a UJ, I tipex a line across the yoke/circlip/cup so I can see if it has been rotating... I do hope the Fitchett's driveshafts are okay, as I now have one fitted to my car (only 100 miles ago though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Hello JumpingFrog Yes those are the ones I also though they do not look up to the job and the ones I removed were a bit chewed up Mr Smarty Pants Nick was right I think(I was hoping it was that but did no want to get my hopes up!) On the cross joint I left the bits of plastic out I could lever the joint from side to side and I have managed to squeeze in a 0.014" shim! I will take it for a spin later with fingers crossed with only 6 days to go before Spain & Portugal !!!!! Roger ps a few photos from yesterday Wings & Wheels meeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Jones Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 hours ago, rogerguzzi said: Mr Smarty Pants Nick was right Surely not One of my early lessons in the strange habits of swing axle rear ends from 1987- ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 Hello All Roger is a HAPPY Bunny again now! I have been out in Spitty and the clicking noise has gone(plenty of other squeaks & rattles but that is normal 2 days into holiday and I will hardly notice them!) I did a bit more autotune and held it in 3rd at higher revs both in and out of O/D. Tick over seemed slow to settle so made a few changes(I sound like I know what I am doing?)its the blind leading the partially sighted in the dark! My first Fitchett's drive shaft has done about 1700 miles and looks ok Still seem to be blowing oil out so I have ordered a cheap oil catch tank (1lt) it can not make it any worse? I can just squeeze it in behind the radiator under the alternator or is that too low? Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 I have a catch tank on mine just behind the radiator on the suspension mount. All the above regarding shafts,and being overtaken by one of my rear wheels on the RBRR is why i am CV`ing mine as i did with my MK 1 Vitesse. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblebee Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Sorry for an old thread revival, but I may be needing a new shaft imminently and I wanted to check that we all agree Fitchetts are the place to go..... or not as the case may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerguzzi Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 Hello Bumblebee All I can say is both of mine from fitchetts are still fine after 5000miles this year and a bit last(on hols so cant be close The chocolate ones did not do that many as in my thread Roger (northern cyprus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblebee Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 (edited) Cheers Roger, I wont know if I need shafts until I get the bearings out, but the movement there does not fill me with confidence. Once Ive got a puller all will become clear I suppose. At least I know there is a sensible supplier out there. Enjoy the holiday! Andy Edited November 9, 2019 by Bumblebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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