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The return of the Triumph marque?


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BMW only own the Triumph name by chance, having bought the rump of BL to get Jaguar and Rolls Royce.     They already had used the suffix "GT6" for some of their sportier cars, but only in Europe.     This is a bit of PR, latching onto the centenary.   I fear that anyone waiting for a production "Triumph" should not hold their breath.

From the independent design house Makkina, probably by their leading staff member Jordan Gendler, any association with BMW is only as clients for a show car.

www.makkina.com     Scroll down half a page and click on the link "TR25".

John

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But what's "radical" about it? It's very much a standard impractical Motor Show concept, based on a production drivetrain.

I'm trying to reconcile the phrase "pure driving pleasure" with a gear-less anodyne electric car. And I can't. To me, it looks like the Vegetarian Solution: dress your product up to look like the very thing it isn't.

In a similar vein, I see that the motoring press on Septic Isle has taken the "MG" SUV to its collective heart, concocting some nostalgia nonsense for Shanghai Automotive's sly bit of badge substitution.

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The MG SUV is the car reduced to “transport appliance”. As are many (most?) others.

The TR25….. just another concept car. I can’t get remotely excited about them. 
Although, it could well be an entertaining drive as although it’ll be lacking a sound track and the gear changing experience it could be very rapid and the handling should be ok as if you can’t get decent weight distribution on an EV, you should probably consider a career change

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1 hour ago, Nick Jones said:

As are many (most?) others

True dat. The Boss has a pre-Chinese Volvo V60. Comfortable, reliable, swift. But soulless. I used to have new company cars, but my interest has all be gone. It's difficult to point to any new car and, irrespective of budget, say "fwor! I'd 'ave one of them!"

The lad's 33-year old W124 estate is slow, thirsty and gives the occasional cause for worry. But it is supremely comfortable and an unbeatable long distance cruiser.

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2 hours ago, Nick Jones said:

The MG SUV is the car reduced to “transport appliance”. As are many (most?) others.

A neighbour's daughter turns up to visit her parents, and outside their house she parks a Roller SUV!  A 'Cullinan'.  It's |•®=π¢✓{{✓ ENORMOUS!

And, IMHO, somewhat vulgar.

John

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56 minutes ago, JohnD said:

And, IMHO, somewhat vulgar

Somewhat? :blink:

Totally obscene (IMHO) Footballers wives territory.  Obscenely expensive too.

1 hour ago, PaulAA said:

The lad's 33-year old W124 estate is slow, thirsty and gives the occasional cause for worry. But it is supremely comfortable and an unbeatable long distance cruiser.

This is why I’m still rolling around in the ol’ Sootmonster. Though it’s not thirsty at least….

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13 hours ago, PaulAA said:

RR (and Bentley, to no lesser effect) appear to have become a byword for vulgarity and tastelessness. Long gone are the days of discretion and understatement. Blingy, loud and collosal seems to be their market.

I once talked to an ex Rolls CEO and his view was they (Rolls Bentley - SUV) are just positioning themselves as to where the market is. They learnt a long time ago that they don’t dictate to the market they provide what the market want so they stay in business and sell products.

it’s the same with the new “mini” etc

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5 hours ago, Hamish said:

I once talked to an ex Rolls CEO and his view was they (Rolls Bentley - SUV) are just positioning themselves as to where the market is. They learnt a long time ago that they don’t dictate to the market they provide what the market want so they stay in business and sell products.

it’s the same with the new “mini” etc

Absolutely, Hamish. On the one hand, you can't blame them for going where the market is. Prostitutes - and us architects - learnt that lesson long ago.

But the difference is that they once set the standard. Now, they just follow it.

In a similar vein, I read recently that Mercedes are ceasing production of estate cars altogether. They see far bigger sales from the school run trade in SUVs with big wheels and skimpy tyres. I'm in danger of slipping into a long monologue about what has gone seriously wrong with the 21st century...

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34 minutes ago, PaulAA said:

Absolutely, Hamish. On the one hand, you can't blame them for going where the market is. Prostitutes - and us architects - learnt that lesson long ago.

But the difference is that they once set the standard. Now, they just follow it.

In a similar vein, I read recently that Mercedes are ceasing production of estate cars altogether. They see far bigger sales from the school run trade in SUVs with big wheels and skimpy tyres. I'm in danger of slipping into a long monologue about what has gone seriously wrong with the 21st century...

Came upon this as part of a video on the whole bloated vehicle thing.

WW2 Sherman tank...

 

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Cadillac Escallade.. bloated, hideous, vulgar, for the terminally cras and insecure...

 

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bah humbug

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What’s in a name?
 

 Barr and Stroud,
the Glaswegian manufacturers of quality binoculars famously supplied the film
”The Cruel Sea”, before like most of the British optics industry disappearing.
That is, until a few years ago when some enterprising (?) folk decided to reuse
the name on some run of the mill binoculars.

I am thinking that the majority of folk won’t care and in the case of Barr and Stroud
will be unaware of their  history?

 

There is a plus side to the Triumph name being reused….
for Facebook advertising sellers will then be able to list their Triumphs as Triumphs …….

 

 

Ian

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