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WIth the engine nearly finished, and gearbox back from its TLC break, just planning ahead for a couple of other things I want to do before the season starts.

 

Going to pull the 4.1:1 LSD and try a 3.63 so its going to be back end out in a week or so. I know that one of the cups in a drive shaft is rotating as I mark them, normally find at least one moving before the end of the season, so just change the pair. In the past I have had a box of old HD GKN ones, but now I'm out, so looking for recommendations. I seem to remember someone saying a year or two back that one of the VOLVO's uses an identical UJ, and that  genuine VOLVO ones were good.

 

Anyone any idea what model?

 

Alan

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You might do best to talk to a proper industrial bearing power transmission parts company.  These GKN/Hardy Spicer UJs are used on all kinds of kit, not just cars and most sizes (dimensionally speaking) are available in several forms - light duty, standard duty, heavy duty, greaseable, non-greaseable, circlips inboard or outboard etc. If you give them the dimensions (cup dia and cup face to cup face), these guys tend to know the numbers without even reaching for the catalogue.  You can find them online and x-ref but it's a bit of a pain.

 

I have heard that Freelander ones fit and are strong.  For Volvo I imagine it would be the Amazon (122) and 240 series though I'd sort of expect them to be using the next size up (like Stag).

 

If the cups are spinning it's usually the trunnions that are knacked as they are much softer than the cups.  If still reasonably tight you can assemble with Loctite "bearing fit" but probably need a blowlamp to get them out again and make sure the joint moves ok before leaving it to set as the cups may need settling back to the circlips.

 

Having completely eliminated the "little" UJs from the Vitesse (CV shafts use CVs and the propshaft uses Stag/Supra size) I had been enjoying not doing UJs for many years until I had to do the propshaft one on the Spit a few weeks ago.  It went well.....  So much easier with a bench vice.  I've done a few outside my old digs in Hampton using nothing but a couple of manky sockets, a hammer and the kerb......  Not recommended!

 

Nick

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 So much easier with a bench vice.  I've done a few outside my old digs in Hampton using nothing but a couple of manky sockets, a hammer and the kerb......  Not recommended!

 

Nick

 

Thanks for the input,  yes did one like that on a friends Spitfire, during lunch break at an Autotest on Plymouth Hoe back in the late 70's, still have a couple of knuckle scars to prove it!

 

Alan

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Thought I'd publish results of a bit of digging, so where ever you are stuck

you can find a small Triumph UJ.

 

 

Ultimate Small Triumph UJ Cross Reference

 

TRIUMPH

GUJ101          No Grease Nipple GKN UC# 18040   GKN# U040  HS 1140

GUJ115          Grease Nipple       GKN UC# 18050   GKN# U050 HS 1140

 

LAND ROVER

TVF100000   No Grease Nipple   GKN UC# 11748   GKN# U049  HS 1140HD "heavy duty"

 

NOBODY       Grease Nipple        GKN UC# 11749   GKN# U052  HS 1140HD

 

 

Nothing listed as ever using U052

Only Vehicle to use U049 is Land Rover

 

The Land Rover HD one does appear to be optimum choice.

 

Beware when buying the usual suspects are selling

 

Cheap copies (from?)         Â£3.50

OEM (maybe GKN U040)    Â£25.00

HD (Land Rover U049)       Â£50.00

 

However a trawl of Land Rover parts suppliers shows that a genuine

GKN HD U049 can be had for around £20

 

The GKN U040 seems to be stamped 5J

The GKN U049 seems to be stamped 6A

 

Of course looking at the table below, one could make a judgement

that buying a genuine X manufacturers part is also likely to

be a good bet if you think the likes of ISUZU and VOLVO are 

unlikely to use cheepo crap.

 

 

Alan

 

 

Manufacturer                Part #       GKN UC#  GKN#

 

ALFA ROMEO          136524805    18040 U040

ALFA ROMEO          1200170        18050 U050

ALFA ROMEO          1201020       18050 U050

BEDFORD                6371772       18040 U040

BEDFORD                7068345        18040 U040

BEDFORD                6342814       18050 U050

BEDFORD                7084449        18050 U050

BEDFORD                7156132        18050 U050

BEDFORD                7156340        18050 U050

BEDFORD                8845370        18050 U050

BEDFORD                8845379       18050 U050

BEDFORD                8845636       18050 U050

BEDFORD                91109415     18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    7088979       18040 U040

BRITISH LEYLAND    8G8979         18040 U040

BRITISH LEYLAND    GUJ 101        18040 U040

BRITISH LEYLAND    GUJ 106        18040 U040

BRITISH LEYLAND    RTC4736      18040 U040

BRITISH LEYLAND    310604005   18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    683385         18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    68385           18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    78433           18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    7H3870         18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    8G3000         18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    8G3001          18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    8G8183         18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    A126012       18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    AAK8264       18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    BG3000        18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    GUJ 114        18050 U050

 

BRITISH LEYLAND    GUJ 115        18050 U050

BRITISH LEYLAND    JD1002         18050 U050

 

CHRYSLER              3306813       18040 U040

CHRYSLER              34244Y            18040 U040

CHRYSLER              34254S            18040 U040

CHRYSLER               5037918          18040 U040

CHRYSLER              5038495           18040 U040

CHRYSLER              5080421          18040 U040

CHRYSLER              7080428           18040 U040

CHRYSLER              K18244            18040 U040

CHRYSLER              11614L            18050 U050

CHRYSLER              34224              18050 U050

CHRYSLER              5038930          18050 U050

CHRYSLER              75060444        18050 U050

CHRYSLER              K23703            18050 U050

CHRYSLER              K23704            18050 U050

CHRYSLER              K23958            18050 U050

 

FIAT IVECO             4024300           18040 U040

FIAT IVECO             4593225           18040 U040

FIAT IVECO             4606993            18040 U040

FIAT IVECO             4655161           18040 U040

FIAT IVECO             329254              18050 U050

FIAT IVECO             4548769            18050 U050

FIAT IVECO             4551551           18050 U050

FIAT IVECO             4556515           18050 U050

FIAT IVECO             4605734            18050 U050

FIAT IVECO             5959654            18050 U050

FIAT IVECO             882321             18050 U050

FIAT IVECO             883235             18050 U050

 

FORD EUROPE      105E7039A       18040 U040

FORD EUROPE      116E-4635A       18040 U040

FORD EUROPE       116E-4635B       18040 U040

FORD EUROPE      1555456            18040 U040

FORD EUROPE       204E-7039         18040 U040

FORD EUROPE      204E-7042         18040 U040

FORD EUROPE      3008E-4635A     18040 U040

FORD EUROPE      3012E-4635A     18040 U040

FORD EUROPE      4635                   18040 U040

FORD EUROPE      7039A                 18040 U040

FORD EUROPE      100E7039           18050 U050

FORD EUROPE      1792216             18050 U050

FORD EUROPE      400E-4635A       18050 U050

HOLDEN                 7068345             18040 U040

HOLDEN                 7084449             18040 U040

HOLDEN                 7156132             18040 U040

HOLDEN                 7156340             18040 U040

 

INNOCENTE            34782118             13869 U010

INNOCENTE            39602101             18040 U040

INNOCENTE            39602102             18040 U040

INNOCENTE            31604005             18050 U050

INNOCENTE            31604103             18050 U050

INNOCENTE            33602103             18050 U050

ISUZU                      373.000.92           18040 U040

ISUZU                      5-37300-019-0     18040 U040

ISUZU                      8-94420-032-0      18040 U040

ISUZU                      9-37300-031-0      18040 U040

ISUZU                      9-37300-609-0      18040 U040

ISUZU                      9-85582-805-0     18040 U040

ISUZU                       94021281              18050 U050

ISUZU                      94024511             18050 U050

ISUZU                      94027724             18050 U050

ISUZU                      5-37300-008-0     18050 U050

ISUZU                      5-37300-029-0     18050 U050

ISUZU                      5-37300-031-0     18050 U050

ISUZU                      8-94415-225-0     18050 U050

ISUZU                      9-37300-017-0     18050 U050

ISUZU                      9-37300-092-0     18050 U050

ISUZU                      9-37300-605-0     18050 U050

IVECO                     4593224               18040 U040

IVECO                     4606993               18040 U040

JAGUAR-DAIMLER   AAU7993               18050 U050

 

JOHN DEERE          AD10091E             18040 U040

JOHN DEERE          AZ3304                  18040 U040

KOMATSU              154-66-12100         18050 U050

LADA                      2101.220.20.25      18050 U050

LAND ROVER        TVF 100000            11748 U049

LAND ROVER        600628                   18050 U050

 

 

MACK                    201 SJ-19                18050 U050

MACK                    201 SJ-19A              18050 U050

MACK                    201 SJ-27                18050 U050

 

NISSAN-DATSUN   20940                       18040 U040

NISSAN-DATSUN   14625                       18050 U050

NISSAN-DATSUN   37125-11975           18050 U050

NISSAN-DATSUN   37126-11975            18050 U050

NISSAN-DATSUN   50743                       18050 U050

POLSKI-FIAT         4606993                  18040 U040

SEDDON ATK        0200281S1              18040 U040

STAHL                   CZ-240                     18040 U040

STAHL                   CZ-101                     18050 U050

STAHL                   CZ-103                    18050 U050

TRIUMPH               124166                     18040 U040

TRIUMPH               128133                     18040 U040

TRIUMPH               129919                     18040 U040

TRIUMPH               508536                    18040 U040

TRIUMPH               513800                    18040 U040

TRIUMPH                GUJ101                    18040 U040

TRIUMPH               101281330               18050 U050

TRIUMPH               122652                    18050 U050

TRIUMPH               500267                    18050 U050

TRIUMPH               52405                      18050 U050

TRIUMPH                52406                      18050 U050

TRIUMPH                GUJ115                   18050 U050

VOLVO                  656762                    18050 U050

VOLVO                  87977                      18050 U050

 

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They fit well  but they are  23,81 x 61,3 in real life.  I use shims (Canley Classics sell them) to position them correctly .

Main advantage you can grease via the cups.

 

Martin

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