mattius Posted December 7, 2010 Author Share Posted December 7, 2010 Wonder how much damage this weather will do to the spit with the engine in pieces, -14 degrees here just now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted December 29, 2010 Author Share Posted December 29, 2010 It survived the winter, all seems fine, i deliberatly didnt bolt down the head as there was no way i could get coolant into the system for winter. Im not even allowed to touch it for another month or two, and the audi is abandoned the other side of the town, with some kinda fueling problem. Not allowed to drive so not too fussed at the moment by either. New coil has arrived, ordered new magnecor leads, and the dizzy will be ordered in the new year and then i can remove megajolt when finally allowed to walk again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 went round fixed the audi, simple gentle pursuation on the fuel regulator with a mechanics best friend (hammer), and it struggled into life. running like a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Just shelled out £500 on all the parts to convert the ignition, new set of magnecors and 123 dizzie on its way to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 Ouch— must feel painful to pay that much to downgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 I should get quite a bit back selling the megajolt kit, not so much sore over the cost, i just hate doing things twice. shoulda done the dizzy from the outset and sold the jolt years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I still don't understand why Megajolt is the best you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark spit Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Cos the competition regs he's going to have to comply with don't permit the jolt....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I know- but that wasn't years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I know- but that wasn't years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Actually it was years ago, the regulations state that electronic ignition is acceptable, when building the car i took that to mean megajolt would be acceptable, however my mot guy is a competitor and when he saw it and new my intentions informed me of the other bit of the regs which states electronic control units are not allowed. So megajolt is out. Combine that with changing the waterpump back to std or even alloy means that the car is then elligable for historic hillclimb events. If its so wonderfull fit it to your own cars, but it aint for me. End of discussion i've explained it too many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Great service from southern carburetters, chat on the phone yesterday arrives today. Beautifully made thing nice neat and compact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHR630 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just shelled out £500 on all the parts to convert the ignition, new set of magnecors and 123 dizzie on its way to me. Hi Matt, understand your reasons for this change - now sweat 9 same as I am always expaining as to why I have non-programmable ignition). The 123 counts the same as Luminition or any of the similar modules but has the advantage of offering an advance curve "close" to what is required. However, concerned about your costs. It was a couple of years ago but I paid about £185 for the dizzy and $30 for the coil. Even with the Magnecors, £500 seems like a lot???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 dizzy was �280! quite an increase. magnecors �50, coil �30, alloy crank pulley �100. ok so the alloy crank pulley wasnt necessary but whilst im ditching the steel one there is not much point in replacing with another steel one. its one of the reasons i didnt go for the 123 tune, its an extra £150, there is no way i can justify the cost of that. its already an expensive leason in hindsight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick B. Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 It is probably a question of exchangerates. Isn't 123 from the netherlands? Cheers Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 yeah but even buying it direct didnt make it much cheaper. add that and our new vat increase and it makes a lot of tax on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHR630 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I bought mine from SC Parts about 3 years ago, I think there was an offer on. They are now offering them for £265 !! Quite an increase!! Having said that, a "new" lucas distributor, correctly built for your advance curve and fitted with a reasonable electronic module?? It would still have the crappy Lucas cap and rotor. The 123 is well engineered with Bosch parts which should last well. I've seen "rebuilt" Lucas dizzies for over £100 and they've cleaned and fitted with 2nd hand parts. I got one from TLD some years ago for £80 that was exactly that (oh he'd filed a bit off the stator plate to limit the max advance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I think mine was about £180 back in 2007? It lasted really well with no issues at all— doing a good 8,000 miles or so until Megajolt/squirt was fitted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 matt, Which race series bans MegaJolt? I never fitted mine to Sb, and I planned to give it to SofS this winter. I could be in your position, if you are looking at CSCC. JOhn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 nah john im looking at the SMRC Classics and Sports Series, and the Scottish Hillclimb Championship. Look closely at the rules, i missed the fact whilst building mine as it said electronic ignition was ok, however further down the rules it says that computer controll or ecu boxes are not allowed in any aspect of the car. having spoken to the scruiteneers, they say they are actively working to outlaw these units as there were a couple of people last year who had them disguised somehow in the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The 123 is computer control though? And for doubly sure the tunable one would have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrookster Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Yeah, but more in the sense that a calculator is a computer. The 123 does not take external data from various sensors etc etc and collate the entire lot into a map, in the way that the mega's do. I should guess this is what the difference is, not having looked into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattius Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 you fail to get the point james, the 123 is still a distributer, sure it has some circuitry in it, but at the end of the day it is a dizzy. Megajolt or squirt has no distributer whatsoever and an ecu box connected to it, a distributer is required and an ecu is outlawed. Electronic ignition is allowed, ecu is not. you seem determined to pick at my every word james, have i wronged you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 It's the same— it has a sensor to pick up camshaft speed and a MAP sensor to pick up vacuum there is nothing mechanical about it apart from the spark distribution. The curves are just preset and are linear for both vacuum and mechanical advance. I will admit that it's not programmable— which is where I guess the advantage is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Not at all Matt— just find it odd that the tuneable one would be allowed? In fact you can run megasquirt with a dizzy and have your programmable maps— would have been a nice option for you perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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