Hamish Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 Some time ago I was contacted by christian Gurney of mecum auctioneer in the USA about using some film of my dads in a promotion video. I said yes for a charity donation. This is the video my question to you is how much will it sell for ?!
PaulAA Posted November 13, 2025 Posted November 13, 2025 Great film, Hamish. Pity they couldn't manage a credit for the source at the end, given what the auctioneer's premium will be on this... I'd say it wil go for well north of $50m. Looking at what is being paid for cars with provenance now, it could be $70m.
Escadrille Ecosse Posted November 15, 2025 Posted November 15, 2025 Excellent Hamish. You are part of quite a special family. The 250 GTO is one of the best looking Ferraris in my opinion. Nice to see a Ferrari that isn't red (gets very boring). Generally not a fan of white for cars but it really suits this one. The video is interesting but the thing that got me is that there is really nothing much about the car itself. It's pretty obvious that the market for this type of vehicle is someone who 'likes' cars but is in reality more interested in them as an investment rather than for driving. Much in the same way as they would 'like' a property on 57th Street in New York but wouldn't actually live there. As for value? The last/only time I saw a 250 GTO in the flesh outside a museum was at a sprint event at Knockhill in the late 1980s (where there was also a Lancia Stratos!). At that time one had just been sold for £1.5 million. So I have no reason to doubt Paul's estimate.
Hamish Posted February 9 Author Posted February 9 $35m hammer and $38m with commission and it seems to have gone to a guy that likes to drive them. 3
John I Posted February 10 Posted February 10 He does like to drive them you can tell that even from the short clip, no kid gloves and a good heavy right foot. Good on him 1
PaulAA Posted February 10 Posted February 10 I am surprised that it went for "only" $35m, but maybe it's a reflection of the much-reported decline in classics' sales prices...
Escadrille Ecosse Posted February 10 Posted February 10 3 hours ago, John I said: He does like to drive them you can tell that even from the short clip, no kid gloves and a good heavy right foot. Good on him Nice to see. 3 hours ago, PaulAA said: I am surprised that it went for "only" $35m, but maybe it's a reflection of the much-reported decline in classics' sales prices... Was reading something about this recently. Thought is that it's about demographics. The 'Nick Mason' era rich guys who remember this high end exotica from their youth are basically dying off which is deflating demand for the real high end cars
JohnD Posted February 10 Posted February 10 In the Mallory Park paddock, i found myself next to a guy driving a Ferrari. NOT a GTO! Over lunchtime i complimented him on his devotion to motosport, to drive what was a valuable if not stratospheric car. He explained that he had lusted after a Ferrari since childhood, but by the time he could afford one he couldn't afford the road insurance! I was glad he wasn't in my race! John
Hamish Posted February 10 Author Posted February 10 6 hours ago, PaulAA said: I am surprised that it went for "only" $35m, but maybe it's a reflection of the much-reported decline in classics' sales prices... Yes i was way out when i was first approached about the video I thought double ($70m) would be about right. so its a bargain !!!! what is incredible is the $3.5m commission and taxes.
PaulAA Posted February 11 Posted February 11 22 hours ago, Hamish said: what is incredible is the $3.5m commission and taxes. If he moves it to another country, that might look like chickenfeed. In the extremely unlikely event that Mr Lee decided to foresake the California sunshine and take up residence in not-quite-so-sunny PL, the Fezzer would attract 18.6% excise, 10% duty and, to add insult to injury, cars from outside the US are also subject to 23% VAT. So roughly another $20m. 1
mpbarrett Posted February 11 Posted February 11 I have to add my Ferrari story. We used to live above my father TV shop next to a garage in Keston, Kent. the family that ran the garage were into cars in a big way (see pics below) and my father, uncle and grandfather were marshals at Brands hatch. happy memories of Boxing day racing at Brands... One day the was a Ferrari dumped at the garage, the story being that it was being tested by the motoring correspondent of the Daily Telegraph but the car lost the clutch and was left at the garage. The car was a 1959 Ferrari 250 GT Competizione Alloy Berlinett I managed to sit in the car and someone took my photo! I still have the stick out ears! the car was beautiful and I researched the car found that it ended up in the USA. The garage and owners used to close the garage in the evening and then race go carts around the pumps.. At the weekends there friends would meet up at the garage and talk cars... that is the Croydon road just after the junction with Westham road. No traffic and now looks very different now. Happy days! mike 6
JohnD Posted February 12 Posted February 12 (edited) 17 hours ago, mpbarrett said: mike Mike, Are you sure you don't have a double, using the name Alfred E. Neuman, of MAD magazine? Edited February 12 by JohnD 1
Escadrille Ecosse Posted February 12 Posted February 12 That's a brilliant set of photographs Mike. And just ignore those two We could almost have been twins at that age. Although obviously a dodgy bunch when you need an armed Northumberland Fusilier to keep order on the school bus. 1
NickyT Posted February 12 Posted February 12 I had the same issues as a kid. And mum always went for a "crew cut" at the barber to extend the length of time to the next hair cut. Meaning they really stuck out for about 2-3 weeks. And kids that age can be brutal for teasing...
mpbarrett Posted February 12 Posted February 12 6 hours ago, JohnD said: Mike, Are you sure you don't have a double, using the name Alfred E. Neuman, of MAD magazine? I refer you to King Charles ears, they are Royal ears! 1
Nick Jones Posted February 12 Posted February 12 3 hours ago, NickyT said: I had the same issues as a kid. And mum always went for a "crew cut" at the barber to extend the length of time to the next hair cut. Me too. Never liked getting a haircut…..
rogerguzzi Posted February 13 Posted February 13 Hello All When my my mother took me for the scalping I would not let the barber use the electric clippers he had to get the old hand clippers out!(I bet that peed him off?) Roger
NickyT Posted February 13 Posted February 13 There was one of those in a box of "inexpensive" scissors I bought from Amazon. But quite small. I think meant for cutting threads when sewing.
Escadrille Ecosse Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Occured to me that this a great example of thread drift. Starts with sale of a specific car and ends with a discussion on haircuts and sheep shears 1
PaulAA Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Ah, but has it ended? Especially now that it has veered towards discussing thread drift, a topic with the potential for much debate. Or not. 1
Escadrille Ecosse Posted February 14 Posted February 14 (edited) Well yes. Thread drift seems a bit like a collective stream of concious thing. Like when you start thinking about new shoes and end up wondering which cake you like best. For example... Edited February 14 by Escadrille Ecosse
Nick Jones Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Surprisingly perhaps…. Autotrader claims to have a number of 250 GTOs for sale…. https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?advertising-location=at_cars&aggregatedTrim=&body-type=&colour=&fuel-type=&make=Ferrari&model=250&postcode=TA135JX&transmission=&trim= Some are closer than others Geographically the the green Z3 based “tribute” is quite close to me if anyone is tempted
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