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Is it too soon to say "good riddance" to the tangerine twat? Possibly not seeing as his "buddy" Murdoch seems to have deserted him (there's another one needs smearing with honey and staking to a 

I should say! I fear that even with Biden winning, the closeness of it all means that America has failed it's collective IQ test in my view.  First time around - fair enough - I understand you co

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2 hours ago, Nick Jones said:

He should be going to the tower :growl:

........ but he’s probably returning to his high-end dacha outside Moscow.

Rats leaving the sinking ship, which is ironic seeing as they chewed the bottom out of it!

Some reporter mentioned that he had said he hoped to be redundant by the end of 2020 some time ago. I guess just before Brexit proper happens. So yes, walking away in a timely fashion. 

Who is next to take up power?

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2 hours ago, Nick Jones said:

He should be going to the tower :growl:

........ but he’s probably returning to his high-end dacha outside Moscow.

Rats leaving the sinking ship, which is ironic seeing as they chewed the bottom out of it!

Speakimg (squeaking?) of rats, did you notice how in the US even Fox News is dropping Trump, like the rancid offal he is?

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Speaking of rancid weasel offal..... Cummings is out. Another one who should be on his way to the tower :growl:

Question now is, who is wearing the trousers at no.10 now? We know it ain’t de Piffle......

No, question is, what is currently being "hidden" from us?

I don't buy into the idea of a major spin doctor who publicly walk out of Downing Street with the obligatory box at 5pm on Friday, 13th no less. I want to know what he is covering up!

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That little weasel is, to a large extent, the architect of the shit this country is in.... and he walks away..... with his cardboard box...... boils my piss. 
 

I would really like to know who he really works for - it isn’t the greater good of the UK and that is for certain.

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It's half a year since I started this thread.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans have died of the virus.

Yesterday, ten times more Americans died from the virus than the deadliest Vietnam War day for America.

And Trump released a 46 minute video, which mentioned Covid 19 for 30 seconds, in reference to how his opponents had used it against him.  The rest of the time, he blathered on about how ho couldn't possibly have lost.  Blah, blah blah, while one of his countrymen died every 30 seconds from a mitigatable evil that he's ignored (some might say embraced!) during his watch.

I despair for America.  Biden will inherit a broken country, with plague like numbers overwhelming their medical system.  Yet Trumps supporters are still in  the streets, and still pouring millions of dollars into his coffers, all in the name of "MAGA".

Those red hats will be looked back on one day as a symbol of death, destruction and folly.

I just hope my friends in the US weather the storm, and their countries folly doesn't drag the rest of us down. 

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Amen to that.....

But one of the key supporters of the situation there and in the UK is (very) wicked uncle Rupert..... one of Australia’s more noxious exports....:ninja:

Another one who head needs to be on a pike for the greater good!

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I've remarked before, but not in this thread,on the extraordinary volte-face of the US electorate, who choose, after someone clever, literate, educated, intelligent and eloquent, to go for someone who is the exact opposite.

But while Amercia can produce the like of Obama, there is hope for them.

John

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Obama won on the basis of competent political campaigning and a manifesto based around repairing Dubya's mistakes. Trump won because of the rise of social media and the widespread dissemination of conspiracy theories, inventions and outright lies. He used fear and self-doubt to leverage a Presidency that re-introduced the frontier value of 'shoot first and survive'. It appears that his blatantly dishonest attempt to usurp democracy and steal the election still has a dogged following of zealots, who misguidendly want to 'protect the Constitution' and believe unshakeably he was cheated. He knows that he has lost, but, in true failed despotic style, he is determined to ensure that Biden inherits a broken and divided country.

That an individual in high office, who has lied on more than thirty thousand recorded occasions during his tenure, can cheat, steal, indulge in outrageous nepotism and still command the loyalty of a third of the US electorate, speaks volumes about the regression of political maturity in the US and places a considerable burden of responsibility on Facebook, Twitter and Google.

With all due respect, John, I think we are passing into an age when truth and accuracy have little currency. Trump was an incompetent, partisan, ignorant, capricious and cavalier bully, who promised far more than he could ever deliver and used base leitmotifs appealing to latent selfishness and xenophobia to reinforce his position. Yet he generated near-rabid support not only from blue-collar workers but also - inexplicably - from some sections of the college-educated and professional classes, who were either prepared to accept his dishonesty or were themselves swallowed by it.

Populism may have emerged as a response to the closed corridors of traditional political power, but its sheer mendacity and incompetence demonstrates that it is a far, far more toxic direction. It is the politics of blindness and selfishness, yet people still believe in it. It is in the process of ruining the UK, Poland, Hungary, Brazil, the US and other countries, but it appears that it still has some way to go before it burns itself out.

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Thank you, Paul, a bleak and depressing outlook, which I fear we must share.   But still, as Obama said, there is the audacity of hope.    And the Long View.     In the last century, in most countries, people struggled upwards, successfully.     In the UK their victory was marked, just halfway through, by the Beveridge Report, the Labour Government of 1945 and the foundation of the NHS.      It is sad that Socialism in Britain has found few leaders to match Atlee, Bevan and Bevin.    John Smith seemed to have that quality, but he was snatched away;   Blair, too, but extraordinarily for a socialist he was seduced by imperial dreams.    But I still hope that we will progress towards a less divided society.

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A whole raft of truly outstanding examples of how not to run a country happening in the UK in recent days and right now.

No deal by default and COVID tiers chaos.....

You couldn’t make it up. With the blond pig right up front and centre on both issues he obviously owns both, so difficult to see how he’s going to blame others though he is a very greasy pig and will surely try.....

There is no cabinet member I would trust to wash my car- it would surely come out scratched and dinged beyond repair......

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Don't worry Nick, I would apply the same concerns to our Scottish politicians, who seem to be similarly ineffective!

We have been informed that from Boxing Day all of Mainland Scotland will be under the highest restrictions, with the Islands being a level below. Fine, except they appear to have stopped looking at current virus levels! Many areas currently have reducing infection rates (Argyll & Bute being one of them) yet the Scottish Borders, where infections rates are now higher than many "Level 3" (our tiers run 0-4) areas, yet they remain happily ensconced at level 1 (the lowest level currently being applied).

A well known saying involving piss-ups and breweries comes to mind, which takes some doing considering Scots are known for their drinking capabilities!!

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Arrrrgh!  Don’t give them ideas :pinch:

 

As for all those ugly lorries in Kent - embarrassing evidence of failure on several levels - quick, hide them away! But what about their poor bloody drivers, of many nations, marooned in Kent without so much as a working portaloo to piss in........

Ignore them.... let them rot...... let the NGOs step in to care for them (don’t tell Rees-Marley!) or hope the local burger van owners and portaloo renters will spot a business opportunity?

And apparently the lorry drivers are charged with making their own arrangements to get tested for C19...... yeah right....... that’ll be entirely possible ......

What a bunch of worthless oxygen thieves this government is !

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Their willingness to drop responsibilities on others extends not only to the unexpected, and it is honest to describe the new variant Covid as such, even if the European response is predictable.     Schools have been told that they must provide mass testing of pupils, without any provision beyond the usual promises of funding, and none of assistance beyond "army support".   What?!?   Teachers, heads in particular, will have a doubly ruined Xmas, as they try to work out how a school can arrange a medical service, in less than two weeks.

Then, the "Gov" writes to heads, reassuring them that if they fail in this impossible task, they "will not be sued".    Many are saying, "See you in court!     You would be using a strawman, as my school has no money, only debts!" 

 

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Peter,

The "Kent" variant and the "South African" variant are the same, VUI 202012/01 ("Variant Under Investigation year 2020, month 12, variant 01") which is another example of the very many variants that have already been found in Covid.    This one is also designated N501Y, and has been found in Australia,  Denmark, Italy, Iceland and the Netherlands, which demonstrates the panic among our Leaders in general, that has led to the precipitate closure of the Channel ports. WHO has an extensive webpage on it, which does little more than also demonstrate that we know very liitle on it, yet.  https://www.who.int/csr/don/21-december-2020-sars-cov2-variant-united-kingdom/en/

That European  action reminds me of an old Daily Telegraph headline, "Dense fog in Channel - Continent cut off!"

John

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