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Heinkels were built in England in the early 60’s by Trojan Cars.

 

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2 hours ago, PeterC said:

Then all is forgiven.

However....

http://prntscr.com/qzopon

Method in the apparent madness.

by setting that end date, car makers will put 100% of resources into e-cars, and mass will drive prices down.

we've reaches the technical tipping point. 4 strokes are having their 2 stroke moment.

lets not forget, until the Model T, electric cars were very popular. The Model T made gasoline powered cars affordable.

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51 minutes ago, Scooter said:

Method in the apparent madness.

by setting that end date, car makers will put 100% of resources into e-cars, and mass will drive prices down.

we've reaches the technical tipping point. 4 strokes are having their 2 stroke moment.

lets not forget, until the Model T, electric cars were very popular. The Model T made gasoline powered cars affordable.

There's a big snag: insuffficient global supply of cobalt, and rare earths for the emotor permanent magnets. Prices of those, and probaby lithium for batteries, will soar.

The CCC, who made the 2035 edict, were made aware in 2017 but have ignored this fundamental limitation.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/107058/uk-electric-cars-will-require-twice-the-world-s-supply-of-cobalt

We may well end up with soft iron magnets in ecars with the performance and range of a milk float.

Or a wood burning Stanley Steamer for those living in the sticks.

 

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17 minutes ago, PeterC said:

Or a wood burning Stanley Steamer for those living in the sticks.

Does veg oil count..... the Soot Monster will run on that

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4 minutes ago, Nick Jones said:

Does veg oil count..... the Soot Monster will run on that

CCC is John Gummer's committee so if the SM will also run on beefburgers, he's bound to approve.

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4 hours ago, Nick Jones said:

Does veg oil count..... the Soot Monster will run on that

Expect very tough new emissions restrictions on diesels to drive the last cooking oil burners off the roads.

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4 hours ago, PeterC said:

There's a big snag: insuffficient global supply of cobalt, and rare earths for the emotor permanent magnets. Prices of those, and probaby lithium for batteries, will soar.

The CCC, who made the 2035 edict, were made aware in 2017 but have ignored this fundamental limitation.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/107058/uk-electric-cars-will-require-twice-the-world-s-supply-of-cobalt

We may well end up with soft iron magnets in ecars with the performance and range of a milk float.

Or a wood burning Stanley Steamer for those living in the sticks.

 

 Cobalt?

 

thats why central Africa is the new ‘middle east that everyone’s positioning themselves for.

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1 hour ago, Scooter said:

 Cobalt?

 

thats why central Africa is the new ‘middle east that everyone’s positioning themselves for.

They will need lots If UK needs most of present cobalt production for just 30 million ecars, the rest of the world's 2 billion cars will  have to wait for new mines. And the rare earths could be even more of a limitation.

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1 hour ago, Scooter said:

Expect very tough new emissions restrictions on diesels to drive the last cooking oil burners off the roads.

This may be true, though they tend not to apply retrospectively and there aren't all that many diesels left that will actually run on veg oil.  Kills common rail and PD injection systems very rapidly.

Not a big deal - she won't last much longer without some fairly serious resto work.......  This is under consideration.

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Also, there is something of a conflict here. These dirty diesels from the late 80s and 90s are actually pretty good in CO2 terms. Just a bit less so in terms of particulates and NOx .

Therefore the low emissions zones springing up are mostly about human respiratory healthy and not much to do with planetary health.   So my smelly old diesel may be banned from London now, but it’s a lot better for the planet than the fat modern SUVs that are still allowed in.

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Our 15 year old diesel CRV is being rejuvenated by the local garage. Should last another 10 years, and no dual mess flywheel or particulate filter to fail. And no smog worries in rural Wales.

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On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2020 at 9:48 PM, Nick Jones said:

 So my smelly old diesel may be banned from London now,

Sounds like a win but there are already, many reasons not to go to London.

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18 hours ago, PeterC said:

Our 15 year old diesel CRV is being rejuvenated by the local garage. Should last another 10 years, and no dual mess flywheel or particulate filter to fail. And no smog worries in rural Wales.

The 2.2 was a brilliant diesel. Utterly bulletproof and a great performer, but alas, killed by Diselgate cheating.

18 hours ago, PeterC said:

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On 2/9/2020 at 9:48 PM, Nick Jones said:

Also, there is something of a conflict here. These dirty diesels from the late 80s and 90s are actually pretty good in CO2 terms. Just a bit less so in terms of particulates and NOx .

Therefore the low emissions zones springing up are mostly about human respiratory healthy and not much to do with planetary health.   So my smelly old diesel may be banned from London now, but it’s a lot better for the planet than the fat modern SUVs that are still allowed in.

Well, you can thank those naughty VAG chaps and their cheat software. Filthy diesels that tested as ‘clean’, now the baby and the bath water are being evicted in a backlash.

 

and my SUV isn’t modern or fat!

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58 minutes ago, Scooter said:

Well, you can thank those naughty VAG chaps and their cheat software

Well, yeah.  Incredibly stupid.  However, lost in all the general hoo haa is the fact that even in cheating mode many of the VAG diesels have better NOx performance than Renault/Nissan/Dacia in normal use.  They get away with it as they don't have an actual cheat mode, just clever and cynical mapping.

 

9 hours ago, Chris W said:

Sounds like a win but there are already, many reasons not to go to London

Agreed...…  Though the old shed did get wheeled into London once each in 2017 and 2018 for quite good reasons...…  I suppose I could still use one of my exempt Triumphs, though the thought of being driven over London "roads" in a small chassis Triumph 1 day post major surgery brings me out in a cold sweat!

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