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Triumph T6 Spitfire Gt Build Chris Sherrington.

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:52:16 +0000

Hi all, well my wedding (just gone) has now been fully paid for and now my attention turns towards my Triumph Spitfire GT. I will be using a T6 Fabrications Fibreglass body shell.
T6 Fabrications
Ill be converting the current engine to EFI after the body is fitted and paid for. Then ill be building a fast road spec 1147 engine to give the car the engine she should be running with an 8 port SAH Head.

However back to the body. What does a T6 body look like........It looks like this:

Very sexy, very sleek and most importantly ROT FREE!!! Many thanks to the owner of this car for leaving it with Graham so I could ogle it.
My Car is a mk2 spitfire. Here's a shot from a year ago when I started to rebuild her.

It was in a sorry state having been stripped 14 years before i bought it and then the owner part assembled and then lost interest.
Here is the point where I'm at. Car has new rebuilt engine, all mechanicals have been serviced and MADE SAFE!!!and reliable. I fitted many new parts and its my daily driver.

I use to be a Vehicle Mechanic so doing the above was the easy bit. However I'm no panel beater. I originally wanted a GT6 but not the motor(straight 6) and I wanted to be able to use it through the winters etc without worry. Then in walks the T6 Body concept. It fills all my criteria.

So over the next 6 months I hope to have more photo's of the body being prepared by Graham. I do not intend to build this car all on my own as my time is too short. However Graham is going to do all the little annoying bits that take to long for us NON Panel beaters to do. Fitting doors, windows etc. He will then come up to Scotland and drop the body on. I will then transfer all the bits over from my current tub to the new one. Job done just like that.........Maybe be not, but wish me luck.

Chris.

Craig's GT6 MK3 in Aus.

Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:40:36 +0000

I've always loved small British cars.  At 22 I bought a nice looking but dodgy 67 MGB and spent 5 years continually repairing it as a daily driver.  Great fun, but bloody frustrating, and (to be honest) a slug off the line. In 93, it broke yet again, and I parked it, and spent half the money the smokey motor MGB fix would have cost buying a registered and (allegedly roadworthy) 71 Corona Wagon.  The MG was now offically a Garage Princess, and the Corona gave 4 years of maintenance free service till the angry redhead™ ex smacked it into a curb late one night. (She was driving home from dropping me off at a Bucks night)

I totally planned to fix/restore/resurrect the MG till the day I walked past a local exotic dealers yard, and saw a tiny red coupe.  It looked like someone had forgotten an E-type Jag in a tumble dryer.  Small, but with gorgeous feminine curves, a looooong bonnet, a lift up front end, and a 2 litre motor.  The salesman explained it was a Triumph GT6 MK2.   I had to drive it.

Luckily, when I did, I'd spent over half a decade driving a dodgy MGB. Sure, it didn't track real well, the gearbox was full of guesses not gears, the back end broke out if I wasn't really careful, the drivers window didn't wind down, and the radio didn't work.  Who needs a radio, handling, or windy windows.  The sound of of that straight six winding up had me utterly hooked.  I just wanted it.  (on a visceral level)   Crawling underneath it afterwards and finding the rust in the floor pans, boot, and chassis overriders, I realised that I was finally growing up, and I passed.

But the hook was struck, and deep set.  I sold the MG to someone who knew how to fix it, borrowed a lot more from the bank, and bought a GT6 Mk3 sight unseen, from 2000 kms away.  I had it inspected first by a seemingly knowledgeable source, but budgeted an extra 25% of the purchase costs to sort out any problems.

I got it off the truck, drove 2 miles, and while shifting from 2nd to third, broke a tooth off third. I was a complete mechanical numpty back then, so I gave it to a so called expert, who rebuilt it, charged me many dollars, and gave it back. Two months later, 2nd gear went. Not the same gear = no warranty. I went to another "expert" and had it rebuilt again. This one lasted 3 weeks, and 3rd went again. I declared it haunted and parked it for a while. When I calmed down (3 months later), I took it to a more reputable firm, and asked them to have a look. My 25% was well and truly spent, but , well, whats just a little more?

"It's the wrong gearbox, if we rebuild it it'll break again, leave it with us, we'll fit a bigger box..."

So, I agreed to leave it with them for a month. Near the end of the month I dropped in to see how they were going. The business had gone broke, my car was in bits, and the liquidator gave me the choice of paying an exorbitant sum (more than I'd agreed on for the fix) to get the thing back (still in bits), or hand over the title. No way was I going to let the smarmy suit win, so I scraped together the dollars, and arrived with a towtruck.

At this point I'd bought a car and 3 gearboxes, but had a car and no gearbox, who's interior was strewn with bits of gearboxes. Angry, dissapointed and broke, I towed it to an available spot in my garage, and parked it.

Fast-Foward 14 years,

The GT6 was still where I'd left it, and my landlord booted me out. Move it or lose it time. I decided 14 years is long enough to stay angry, and visited the shed and looked at the old girl to see how she was. Saggy tires, and covered in 14 years of dust, dirt, and the odd possum dropping. Not looking good. Still I pumped up her tires, threw her on a trailer, and took her to our new home via a carwash.

The wash revealed mostly good news. The paintwork was pretty tatty, and needs some work, but the resting place she'd been in was dry and mostly warm, and she's pretty much rust free. Emptying out the parts from the interior reveals that everything was there, just a few bonus bellhousings and gearbox casings. The tunnels been opened up, but not too badly, and suddenly it's time to show the old girl some love.

My ability with spanners has improved since the mid 90's, so this time I'm going it alone...

Turns out, the drivetrain is a bit of a hotchpotch. The engine block is a HB/HE series from an early Vitesse 2 litre, and the gearbox is a HB series from a 1600 Vitesse with a laycock overdrive.. No wonder it kept breaking. I'd really like to meet one of the "experts" who fixed it for me back then. "You must have driven it too hard" Yeah. Right. BASTARDS.

Step one was to build a FrankenToyoTriBox.  The area between the flywheel and the diff is now filled with a gearbox created from two toyota 5 speed T50 boxes, a GT6 Bell-housing, a couple of custom plates and a new driveshaft.  Happy to post the process if anyones interested.

Since then she's been registered and roadworthied, and I had the fun of driving her on the road.  Then I decided to fiddle...

More to come...

Craig

Group 44 Spitty, It Should Polish Out !

Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:29:18 +0000

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Cycling

Wed, 22 Feb 2012 08:24:19 +0000

Well, for some odd reason I am getting stronger and stronger urges to get back out cycling again. I have had brief forays into it over the last couple of years, and to that end I own two bikes, an off-road mountain bike and a light-weight road bike (which may or may not have a buckled frame, really need to check that out!)

Now, whilst I have been happy with these for the last two years, what I really want to do is get back into touring again, for which neither of my current frames are suitable. Basically, neither have fastening points for a pannier rack, and they are both dedicated bikes for their own purpose, whilst I really want a cross-purpose bike.

This is something I have considered for a few years now, and for quite a while my old Claud Butler was a good compromise, however it lacked disc brakes. At the time, I enquired about finding a frame that would allow disc brakes and was informed by several bike shops that I was being stupid in wanting something that was far over-powered for a touring bike. Needless to say, they had never ridden my bike with full panniers downhill and tried to stop it from 30+ mph!!!! It used to have M-brakes, and I went through a set of pads every couple of weeks, which was rather expensive. Good quality pads as well, I experimented with several types before settling with a hybrid pad that offered best performance for road/soft off-road cycling.

Since then the Claud Butler was stolen in Edinburgh, and I went through my car crash, which kinda put an end to my cycling for a while. As said earlier, I have been slowly moving back into it, particularly since I was told that I am no longer allowed to run competitively any more due to the metal pin in my leg. In fact, even when I have tried to run as a hobby, I get about a week in and start to suffer considerable pain in my knee, which is not overly enjoyable!! However I can still cycle happily, as there is no impact involved.

Anyway, the reason behind this post is to ask all you guys advice about suitable frames. I have not really kept up with technology here for a while, so I have no idea what is considered good/bad anymore. I am looking for a rugged yet light weight frame that has mounting points for a pannier rack, front and back if possible. It also needs to have disc caliper mounting brackets. Also, anyone know if you can fit a front rack to suspension forks?? The bike will end up as an effective re-placement for the road bike, as I have no real desire to go into road bike cycling now (used to, but gets kinda boring for me), and also if I build this bike I need to get rid of one, three bikes start to create interesting transport probs :) . However it will also be used for light off-road use (trails/forest tracks etc) so needs to be rugged enough to cope. To swap between roles I shall build two sets of cranks and wheels, to allow me to easily swap between high gear ratios for road and low for touring.

I am looking to build this at home to my own spec, so I am really looking for a frame, as I can pick up the rest easily enough. Brakes wise I shall be using the same as what is on the mountain bike (Hope M4's, with oversized discs, which I know from painful experience have a lot of stopping power!!), and gear ratios will be custom chosen as well to suit me.

And, just to settle any questions as to the reasoning behind touring, this is something I used to do with my father years back, and I am aware that when I get another triumph money may well be on the short side. In order to preserve the money side until I start earning properly (at least three years time) I can use the bike to go on holiday around Scotland!! Also gives me a mode of transport whilst working on the car.

I look forward to hearing all advice given, which from the quantity of cyclists on here will be of good quality!! And apologies for making you all read my mini essay, congrats to those who made it to the end.

Cheers,

Phil

Hurricane development

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:12:20 +0000

Had a good day the other day

Got a big promotion at work with a big pay rise

Most of it will go on the new kid but thought I'd buy the car a little something

So have just ordered the Megajolt kit from Autosport Labs

What i've done to my Car this week!

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:10:46 +0000

Ok,

just had a thought from another thread I just posted,

For all of us that havent got the time, or like me ,the computer know how ,to keep a 'blog' both interesting And up to date! or are too busy reading all the other excellent blogs(Dave) then, what about posting here what youve done to your car this week,that may be of interest,

I'll start then,
This week I did a compression test,which showed( after the advce of you guys) my cyl head to be 'tall' and the cr probably down at the 8:1 mark, so a head skim is now imminent! ;)
Also been fiddling with carbs, screwing up the jets to the bridge,then down 2 turns as a base to set mixture.

Next,

Roy 8)

James' EFI Saloon Thread

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:56:26 +0000

So the plan is to get together a kit of parts to EFI the saloon's new engine - though it will be run on carbs initially.

Today I "machined" my throttle bodies...

(actually these won't be the ones I use - I have a set of earlier ones - but I thought I'd test out the 14mm drill bit on these first)

Works a treat using the hammer setting on the drill - and saves the cost of machining - thanks goes to GT6Mike for this tip :)

James

Selling A Car Is Stressful

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:58:27 +0000

Amigos,

I'm in a mindset of late to clear out the excess crap in my life and that includes the spare GT6's I've had sitting around. The selling point is that they're relatively rust free so I've made a couple connections. I'm making a deal on the red GT6 that you all may remember as "The New GT6" on Photobucket.

There's a really nice guy in Texas that wants it and I'm giving it to him at my cost. My profit is keeping the engine and trans.

That said, now that I've pulled the thing out and actually put "hands" on it I'm getting that restoration nag. The car is sad by my standards and I'm trying to transmit that clearly but I'm starting to see what he sees in the car. He's attracted to the rustfree bit that I take for granted whilst I focus on the dents. It's actually a pretty sound starting point.

I'm going to add a couple of good doors to the deal so he has all the glass to work with.

So why am I so ambivalent about the sale?

Running

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:31:18 +0000

Anyone else here do any running?
Did the Frenchay 10k this morning. Only saw the sign advertising it on Thursday, so I was lucky not to miss it.
No training what so-ever, other than treadmill warm ups at the gym, so i was quite pleased with 47minutes 42 seconds. Not bad for 44 years old. certainly steamed past loads of young 'uns ;). Some hills in the route- though nothing extreme.
Didn't have a watch so, apart from being told I did the first 5k in 23 minutes, I was at a loss as to how i was doing :-/.
Missed the finish line clock as I was steamin' past some 'ginger' who overtook me ;D
A great time had all told- really enjoyed the good spirit of the other runners.

'gulf' Spitfire - Race Car (Rebuild) Project

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 16:02:37 +0000

As the time has come to re-work the race car, aiming for an April re-launch, I thought it was neater to start a new car thread than spread across the other forums. Please bear with my endless questions.

There used to be a thread on the original build here, but it went missing on the old forum - terminally entangled in the GT debacle

So - started stripping today. Smoke and flame damage all over the drivers side of the engine bay. Carbs are fubarred, melted chokes and seized butterflies - starting again there. Much of the wiring needs replacing, along with master cylinders, oil and fuel pressure lines.

The head was removed back in April, just after the test day fire, to check for damage to pistons/head/bores etc. Fortunately all was well, so whichever bits of molten Weber chokes made it into the combustion chamber made it out again harmlessly. Just needs a surface clean up, new gasket and putting back together.

Which brings me to gaskets. A NOS copper composite came off the engine, put there by GT when he rebuilt this engine. My understanding is that copper is 'best' for race applications as it withstands heat and pressure better BUT tends not to seal as well as say, a Payen. I have both, and can use either - so am interested in recommends - I'll wager GT6Steve has something to say.

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Dizzy Core Plug

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:18:48 +0000

Anyone know what specific size is needed to blank off the distributor pedestal on a 1500 Spitfire engine?

27mm? 28mm?

Block Machining Order

Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:11:28 +0000

With the GT6 back on the road I am starting to consider a new bottom end for it. The plan for it is to include cam bearings and a balanced bottom end.
To do this, the block will of course need to be line bored for the cam bearings, have the top decked and the cylinders bored to what ever pistons I use. Is there a best order for these macining processes?

Where's My Piccy?

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:19:18 +0000

To the right side of my desk, just between the two pair of bookshleves I have a small bit of wall with pictures in frames.

Today I notice the Group 44 GT6 advert pic is gone! Frame is there, pic is gone. Has society so far deteriorated that a mans GT6 pics are no longer safe?

The computer is still here, all of the tools too, but the pic is gone. It had to be an inside job so if one of you wants to confess there'll be no further questions....

This Day In 1968

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:46:15 +0000

On this day January 30th in 1968 my GT6 Mk1 was commissioned.

Happy birthday Smurf. Here is to another 44 years.

Winter Daydreams

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:35:45 +0000

With my car 100 miles away having engine/trans work done, I have a lot of idle time on my hands. So I thought I'd dream up a full race GT6 for SCCA's GT2 class. Full tube frame, full carbon bodywork, 15" wheels...etc, etc. Don't know if the old pushrod mill can make enough HP to be competitive in this class, but you could sure look cool...

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My Mental State.

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:33:54 +0000

Interesting to keep a diary for my own reference.

My scale goes full 0 to 120V.

FULL Bi-polar.

120V is when you can hear a heater charging at night like it's got 1200Volts running it, you sense energy, hear a twig break 100metres away, you can hear energy, your senses are RAMPED up, the heater is like it's full of life, it's vibrating, yet it makes no noise on 16V or less.

I see pixelated vision and can open and close my pupils myself and the hairs on my entire body stand up and my heckles are all up, dogs wanna kill me.

0 is totally unable to do anything, total and utter dispair, no energy and no senses, all dulled.

I operate in the zone of 7-16 mostly, this last 6months I've been solid in the 9-16 area.

Yours is probably just 8-11 I guess, your best day ever mood wise would be about 13.

My mother goes about 9-11. I know people who stay on 10 all the time.

Usual scale would be 8-11, tad miserable chap to tad overhappy but not lala land.

Today I'm full of pep, but not OTT. Enjoying my poker, in control but not too fast, clear and focused, but not on any form of manic numbers, ie today I'm about 14V. I'm feeling good and I'm running the tables I am playing if I focus.

I'd be better on 16V, that might come later after some food and walk.

How Much Corrosion Would Deem A Cam Or Mainshaft Unusable

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 09:52:56 +0000

As the rest of you I am always scouring Ebay for the next "upgrade" for my motas..

From time to time items which are not perfect are put up for sale (but I wouldn´t exactly call the scrap either)

Lets say I bought a pitted camshaft or a gearbox mainshaft with slight surface pitting.... can these be cleaned up (at home) if the pitting isn't to severe?

I am not building a race-car just doing a little "shedding" on my saloon... Input welcome!!

Nick Mk2 PI

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 07:40:56 +0000

For some reason I have been wanting a PI.  Had an eye out for a decent one for more than a year and been to look at a few.  Some good cars, some rotters pretending to be good cars and a couple of out and out sheds.  All overpriced, but then big saloon values do finally seem to be climbing.

Finally a chance meeting at the Thornfalcon car show got me talking to a local man who his serious about his big saloons, and after some prodding from his manager he admitted that he might have one more project than he could realistically deal with.

Consequently his project is now my project.

It's a 1972 Mk2 2.5PI in Pimento red.  The shell is very solid for a 38 year old with no structural welding up to now.  It has had some attention to the NS wheel arch and front valance recently.

Mechanically it's complete and running, but having been off the road for at least 10 years, there's plenty needs doing.

So far I've rebuilt the NS front brake caliper, washed out and re-greased the wheel bearing and given the brake disc a very firm scrubbing to get the rust off.  Normally I'd have bought new discs. but they are very expensive (as much for one as a pair of Pagid 289mm vented discs cost for my A6!!) and I've got an idea for some big vented discs to be done in the not too distant future.  The other front corner will get the same treatment once I can move the car (it's a bit big for my garage!).

Meanwhile, the rear end is in pieces.  I've now got the whole subframe out and have changed all 4 knackered driveshaft UJs and swapped one hub with a knackered wheel bearing for one that's hopefully not knackered.  Changed the trailing arm bushes.  The diff is dripping oil from the nose so I'll change the seal and quill shaft bearing while I'm at it.  Might also do the main subframe bushes although they don't actually look too bad.  The rear brakes were utterly knackered, so they'll all be renewed when I put it back together.

Before the subframe goes back in I've got some scraping and resealing to do.  The reason why the car is so solid is that it's been rust proofed from new, and the undersealy stuf is mostly still clinging on bravely.  Just a few patches to scrape off and redo.  Also a very small patch needed on the back of the OS sill - seems to be the result of damage by some ham fisted jacking up some time well in the past.

After that I'll be breaking out the compressor and Dinitrol gun and filling all the box sections I can find.  Don't want any more holes!.  Other than that, a good polish up will sort the bodywork although weather strips and a few other seals will need changing.

Future plans include:

Rear seat belts
Afore-mentioned big brakes
EFI conversion with EDIS
Improved ex-manifold of some kind.  Possibly just a cast TR6 twin outlet one.
LPG (which will mean some head work is needed  ;))

If the engine or 'box turn out to be shagged (Better not be!) then I know for a 2.5 Omega lump with manual box that looks like it might fit......

Want it MoT'd and driveable within the next 2 weeks....... then I'll find out what else is knackered!

Nick

Dhla 40C And Harley-Davidson 1608 Cc

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 06:28:00 +0000

Couldn't believe my eyes when I came upon your remarkable website. I had no idea there were so many knowledgeable and enthusiastic Dell'Orto fans in one place. For the most part dellortos are not that popular on Harleys in the United States any more, perhaps they're too much of a challenge for most to tune. Admittedly, I had major problems for several years trying to use harley's traditional gravity fuel flow. From a full tank to a half tank or every 10 degrees change in temperature required an idle mixture screw adjustment. Finally, the very good people at Dellorto.uk put me on to the dellorto vacuum, pulse pumps and provided excellent advise and parts. Since that time I've had very satisfactory results. I've also used many of the tuning books, including Jack Wagner's book on tuning dellortos for harleys.

My question: since I'm always trying to learn and considering the topic of my post may not be appropriate to your website, are you able to direct me to a comparable site or source that is? Thank you very much.

What's The Point Of Sean Penn?

Mon, 20 Feb 2012 04:32:30 +0000

I'm so glad the great world statesman that is Sean Penn (he is of course an ambassador for Haiti) has given us the benefit of his wisdom on the Falklands. It's so wonderful how so many Hollywood royalty have such left wing views despite their mega-millions (he supports Cuba also)!

As a veteran who did his bit to keep those islands British, I will take notice of his obvious wisdom when, in the words of the Daily Torygraph, he offers to hand his Malibu mansion back to Mexico!

Dickhead!!!!

I feel better now I've got that off my chest - feel free to disagree. (no offence meant to anyone except Sean Penn who is a penis).

Big Saloon Bmw Engine Conversion

Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:13:15 +0000

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=readersrides&action=display&thread=118875

Conversion with potential. Will bloody fly if he can get it to work.....!

NIck

Hot Rod Herald 1200

Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:10:08 +0000

Item number: 330686387375 finishes today

Opps - Less Than Clever - Help Needed

Sun, 19 Feb 2012 12:50:24 +0000

Ok so just flogged my 123 on the Bay as no longer needed (megajolt)

all good

go to find the old dizzy to fit back to the car (so that it can keep all the bits in place)

the fecking gauge fairy’s have nicked it

now can't use my car

Please can someone donate or sell me one (doesn’t need to work, just fit) happily pay postage

pm me if you can help

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Tr6 Pistons

Sun, 19 Feb 2012 07:53:14 +0000

I saw these the other day, they are +20. They don't look like the standard pistons to me. Anyone interested? I've got the guy's number.

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Muscle Building.

Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:24:07 +0000

Think I'm ready for some weight lifting, nothing too serious.

First job is to ebay up a cheap used incline bench so I can start growing breasts.

I got weights already but I'm not happy doing static lifts as I seem to be quite strong considering I'm a skinny. I need alot of weight to get the rep's down, concerned I'll end up compressed under the bar as I don't have access to a spotter ;D

KD Triumph

Sat, 18 Feb 2012 23:15:31 +0000

I won these uprights a month ago on ebay from KD Triumph.

Paid via paypal the same day, including shipping, 10 minutes after the auction closed.

I've sent 3 messages via ebay, 2 direct emails, and rung and left a phone message. (I've also rung 4 other times and not left a message). All I was asking for was a shipped date and confirmation/track number. No response.
Nill nada nothing.

Today I reluctantly opened a paypal dispute. I don't want my money back, I just want to know where the uprights I paid for are. I've had three other packages I purchased and paid for since from other UK vendors arrive.

Are KD Triumph normally so obtuse?

C.

Megajolt, Remind Me Please

Sat, 18 Feb 2012 21:33:26 +0000

I'm still not happy with the way my GT6 runs and I am now looking at the ignition side of things. It feels as if it is not advancing properly as it seems alright up to 3k rpm, but is rough afterwards.

With the ignition system turned on and the engine stopped it has a load reading of 102KPa
Tick over on a warm engine, approx. 60 KPa
When I jump on the throttle it maxes out to 102KPa
On the over-run, throttle shut and going down hill, approx 45KPa

I'm concerned that these reading don't seem quite right to me, but I can't remember what it was like the last time I had the computer plugged in. Comments are welcomed.

I have disconnected the vacuum line from the manifold and sucked hard on it, to see the load gauge go down to 30KPa.

Troubleshooting Tim's Megasquirt (Split from the "C.T. Down" thread).

Sat, 18 Feb 2012 12:53:55 +0000

Its not just you Mr Jones!
Have u received Tims parcel! ?

Type 16 caliper spacers

Sat, 18 Feb 2012 11:53:59 +0000

I'm looking into the Capri vented disc converstion for the type 16 calipers on my GT6 and I've seen the kit from Canleys has been out of stock for quite some time. Are these Girling type 16 calipers the same as used by the Escort MkII? Would this kit fit? Escort Mk2 RS Capri - M16 Caliper Spacer Kit for Vented Discs

Aaron's Spitfire

Fri, 17 Feb 2012 22:53:08 +0000

Well, seeing as someone thought I was on here anyway I thought I'd join up - especially now you're up and running again!

Anyway, I'm Aaron; I'm 17 and I own a Flamenco Red 1977 Triumph Spitfire 1500. I bought from the previous owner - who worked on an abandoned WWII RAF airfield - and the airfield police chased us thinking we were doing wheelies! (it wasn't TOO abandoned) It was right opposite the Tangmere aviation museam too, so maybe they bought it thinking it was a very cheap RAF fighter...?

It currently resides in my garage, awaiting new bearings for the front wheels :)

Aaron